tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post5555256034300943634..comments2023-12-11T09:00:24.299-05:00Comments on Until the Snow Ends: Dudes are coming to hang out!Colin Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-78134688822638361872009-10-26T20:55:44.896-04:002009-10-26T20:55:44.896-04:00That's what I heard but I haven't verified...That's what I heard but I haven't verified it. Maybe he meant 35+ cat 2's? Anyways, if I snuck in I would still be fighting for top ten...and I train pretty well. Well enough to beat most younger Cat 3's.Matthew J. Domnarskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09168676285930363415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-53559878127802771332009-10-26T20:47:56.246-04:002009-10-26T20:47:56.246-04:002's in the B race, really? Interesting. They...2's in the B race, really? Interesting. They sure aren't the guys winning.<br /><br />If it was reported to officials it would have been dealt with, so I'm assuming no one cares enough to report it. So neither do I.Colin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-23048809086606313242009-10-26T20:44:02.982-04:002009-10-26T20:44:02.982-04:00I get pounded every week by M35+ A's. The fie...I get pounded every week by M35+ A's. The fields have been about 85 guys and on a good day I manage 34th. Top 20 for me would be like the parting of the Red Sea. I could give up my Cat 2 and race the 3's for a little bit higher spot, like some of my 35+ friends have done but I figure they have enough riders already. They say that there are 2's in the B race, and that no one is Matthew J. Domnarskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09168676285930363415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-15168836172185761972009-10-26T19:02:35.997-04:002009-10-26T19:02:35.997-04:00Well, sort of.
But for that matter, if you're...Well, sort of.<br /><br />But for that matter, if you're a 1 then you should race against your peers, what's age got to do with it? Why is there even a Master's category?...oh yeah, so there are not 150 3's all racing the same field. Still, seems dumb to have a Master's field. If you're a 1 you're a 1. If you're a 3 you're a 3. Irrespective of age, have a EyeBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16679526954259422576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-81589644305371836892009-10-26T18:44:46.091-04:002009-10-26T18:44:46.091-04:00Masters is not a self selection. You are either ol...Masters is not a self selection. You are either old enough or you're not. Jonny is 45 and Kevin is 50, so they are already "racing down" 10 and 15 years in age respectively. If a 35 year old is getting blown off by them, they can go to the 35+ Cat 4 race if they want to. Or let them race the open Cat 3 race. Why cry and take it out on the athletes who did the work to get good enoughsolobreakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746976531739827476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-11085338075884938882009-10-26T17:26:26.159-04:002009-10-26T17:26:26.159-04:00Eyebob -- I agree with you, really I do. For one ...Eyebob -- I agree with you, really I do. For one reason or another, we've agreed that at age 35 is the point at which you can start competing with your age-group peers no matter how fast you are. Should we change that? Maybe. But it's a complicated discussion, and ultimately, a lot more complaining will happen if we changed it that leaving it as is. Your comments are the first time IColin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-77943400994879971392009-10-26T17:16:00.884-04:002009-10-26T17:16:00.884-04:00It doesn't affect US Natz Master's eligibi...It doesn't affect US Natz Master's eligibility, right? At least I don't think that it does. I can't remember.<br /><br />So, in effect, for the 15-20 elite-elite Master's that go to worlds it would affect them..but at what cost to the rest of the racers? How many Cat 2/3 Master's are affected by the fact that the same guys win every weekend? Gotta be a whole lot more IEyeBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16679526954259422576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-53127428597664855312009-10-26T16:58:42.646-04:002009-10-26T16:58:42.646-04:00BT -- I would totally get behind that. I think it...BT -- I would totally get behind that. I think it would be great to see Bold/Aspolm/Hines and friends in the elite race throwing down. I mean, I am doing adequately and they are way faster than me, so they would do fine. <br /><br />Problem is the elite race is UCI sanctioned and thus they cant enter it without throwing away their international masters eligibility (think masters worlds). Colin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-17373834654936825362009-10-26T16:53:48.304-04:002009-10-26T16:53:48.304-04:00Okay,
so may I also make the comment that this ex...Okay,<br /><br />so may I also make the comment that this exact same thing needs to be done in the Masters 1/2/3 field...but not for the exact same reasons. Teh Master's field isn't a feeder system that's how it's different. BUT, I content that the Cat 1's shouldn't be allowed to race there simply because they're too good for that field. It limits the EyeBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16679526954259422576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-2698743356121271932009-10-26T09:22:34.026-04:002009-10-26T09:22:34.026-04:00"self-congratulatory group ride at the front ..."self-congratulatory group ride at the front of the B race, getting top 10s each week, and thinking about how we are the shit."<br /><br />hmmm...sounds like my season so far! Except without the thinking I am the shit part, but Mckittrick is the shit!Carynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-70314051531929416172009-10-24T19:25:10.169-04:002009-10-24T19:25:10.169-04:00Does anyone really care about the road anymore? I ...Does anyone really care about the road anymore? I mean for real? Come with Rosey and GW one am to meet us at LAP, I could use some MTB 'coaching', no more asphalt, only dirt...come one come all...Matt Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05839793782343860118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-90633871346201962432009-10-23T15:00:04.929-04:002009-10-23T15:00:04.929-04:00I would kill you for a M35 1/2/3 Verge point. So ...I would kill you for a M35 1/2/3 Verge point. So watch your back, bub. We might just neutralize each other.G-ridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15706450850903468425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-59424827511213852532009-10-23T14:25:23.976-04:002009-10-23T14:25:23.976-04:00I applaud you guys for doing this. I've always...I applaud you guys for doing this. I've always been a firm believer in racing above your head and try to follow that rule. I think you are spot on and that you're going to get way better this way than by racing the B's.mkrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15780870344676828580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-83418519371189961522009-10-23T13:44:20.861-04:002009-10-23T13:44:20.861-04:00There's nothing to prevent a promoter from put...There's nothing to prevent a promoter from putting on a 2/3 race.zencyclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00972746221081909463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-79328605249928835932009-10-23T13:28:57.865-04:002009-10-23T13:28:57.865-04:00Ryan: I hear ya man. Corey Lowe upgraded and the...Ryan: I hear ya man. Corey Lowe upgraded and then beat me at Gloucester Day 1. Like, beat me right to my face. He dropped me with 1 to go.<br /><br />I was sooooo sad to realize that I can't beat cat 3's automatically.Colin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-9707675559744121522009-10-23T11:56:57.207-04:002009-10-23T11:56:57.207-04:00Part of me likes people moving up from the Bs, bec...Part of me likes people moving up from the Bs, because I think I can beat them.<br /><br />But the part of me that thinks I can automatically beat them is also the part of me that attempts to chase down TJ's attacks on the road.<br /><br />Basically, that part of me is really delusional. It's probably just more people to beat me, or hang out in the back.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16746945234683959627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-13656846923609175082009-10-23T11:56:07.972-04:002009-10-23T11:56:07.972-04:00I'm a 4 on the road. I've actually never ...I'm a 4 on the road. I've actually never done a Cat 4 road race...Colin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-27584153665500828632009-10-23T11:54:18.936-04:002009-10-23T11:54:18.936-04:00A completely innocent and utterly unrelated questi...A completely innocent and utterly unrelated question—are you still a 4 on the road?Cosmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16494827682986002451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-90144935665414810652009-10-23T11:32:28.519-04:002009-10-23T11:32:28.519-04:00I hope you're right about that top-15 business...I hope you're right about that top-15 business Jerry. Right now, I'd kill a man for top 15. For a UCI point, I'd kill you.Colin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06289923497258059725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-73007330352812186452009-10-23T11:31:16.299-04:002009-10-23T11:31:16.299-04:00i think its awesome, and something only AM could r...i think its awesome, and something only AM could really have pulled off. It was a bold move, but one that was needed to feed the system. In a year or two, all you "first years pros" are going to be scoring top 15s in Verge and feeding the machine. Meanwhile, once more 3's get kicked up, there will be much better racing THROUGHOUT the P1/2 field. People have complained its a bit G-ridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15706450850903468425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8765491466852689692.post-56405899646860430752009-10-23T11:23:26.398-04:002009-10-23T11:23:26.398-04:00the other important factor is that all the cat 2&#...the other important factor is that all the cat 2's i know who tried to downgrade were denied. USAC accidentally worked in conjunction with the Verge series on this one. Dare I say, USAC actually did something good in these cases?<br /><br />Have fun in Maine. There aren't going to be any PRO's there to lap you so you can be sure to get your full 65 minutes worth.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09283988150013827871noreply@blogger.com